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WINTERIZING
A crucial question for many RVers is how to winterize their water
systems. Those who are full-timing donât seem to have a real
problem here, since, as one writer put it,
Winterizing a full-timers coach is easy. Point the coach in
a southerly direction and proceed until you find warm
weather.
Another writer said,
We have never winterized our MH in 20 years. Living in it
keeps it warm enough. And we have spent every winter in
WA or ID, and in the frozen mountains. When at hookups,
we have disconnected the water line and dump hose. If
staying for an extended time, we will put heat tape on the
water line and a heat pad under the black water tank.
For the rest of us, however, this is an important issue, as failure to
take the right steps can result in major damage to your rig.
Unfortunately, as on most issuers, the members of this group are
not in agreement. Some argue that you need only blow out your
pipes with an air compressor, others go for adding the "pink stuff"
(RV anti-freeze), while a few do both.
THOSE WHO ARGUE FOR SIMPLY BLOWING OUT THE
LINES make several points:
- In relatively mild climates, they donât need the extra protection
of the anti-freeze.
- They don't like the taste of the residue anti-freeze that they get
in the spring.
- They have done it this way for years and have had no problem
This writer is typical:
I have used the compressed air method for about ten years
on three different RVs, with no negative consequences. I
chose to go over to this method because we have relatively
long transition seasons on both sides of summer. Many
weekends with mild, sunny days and night time temps
well below freezing. So I ended up re-winterizing several
times on either side of summer and found dealing with the
anti-freeze a nuisance.
However, I am fairly thorough in winterizing and go
through each outlet twice and have a very convenient
situation in which to do all this. If I had to hurry or to use
compressed air at a service station, then I would use anti
freeze. By paying minimal attention, anti-freeze is almost
fool proof; compressed air is just as effective, but is not as
forgiving in the event of overlooking some step in the
process.
Another writer talked to a dealer who never used antifreeze,
because of the cost; the dealer claimed that using compressed air
was enough:
This works fine for them and this is Western New York,
where single digit temperatures are not uncommon. All he
uses is one of those little 12v compressors about the size
of an old hard drive. He said to just close the valve and let
the pressure build a little and the water would blow out in
spurts as you did this. It might take a little time, but that it
would work.
Since many members use only this method, it obviously works.
However, it is a riskier approach, since blowing out the lines
MAY not get all of the water out. Thus these members ADD
ANTI-FREEZE, (with or without blowing out the lines first).
Their argument is best summarized by one writer:
The piping isn't the whole problem. The harder problem is
that water-using appliances may have cavities that trap
water, and won't drain. I'm even skeptical about getting all
the water out of some of these places with compressed air.
The water pump itself can trap water in the pump chamber
and the screen and filter chambers. Toilets can trap water
in internal passages and valves. We once froze and broke
our kitchen sink spray wand by forgetting that it couldn't
possibly self-drain, with a loop of hose hanging under the
sink. Think about an ice maker!
I have found the pink-stuff method pretty quick and very
easy. After opening and then closing the three drains
(water tank, low point in the plumbing, water heater, I just
poured a couple of gallons of pink stuff in the water tank,
flip the heater bypass valve, turn on the pump, and run
each of the various water outlets until bright pink showed
up, then run a little longer, until the traps are bright pink
too. Un-winterizing is pretty easy too: hook up a water
source and run water through the system until it no longer
tastes "pink", turn off the heater bypass, run some water
through the heater, and go camping.
Another writer adds his agreement:
Blowing the lines with compressed air just might not do
the job to remove ALL the risk of freezing a water line or
joint. Anyone who has tried to siphon a gas line knows
what happens when the air in the line is below the height
of the fluid! The air will always seek the highest point
when it has a chance! Which means ..... if you are blowing
a line that has a low spot, you just MIGHT not get all
water out of the low spot when you are done blowing the
lines! If the low spot happens to be a rigid plastic joint,
well, you just might be doing frozen line repairs come
Spring. I for one do not take any chances, and I ONLY use
RV antifreeze ...... and I do NOT blow the lines first.
A third writer emphasizes this point:
I cannot refrain from urging people in cold climates to
ignore advice about "blowing out" water. Folks, it can and
does work with SOME plumbing arrangements, but it is
*not* something I would recommend to a friend.
Depending on the exact details of your plumbing, air may
NOT get all the water out, and as others have pointed out,
it will cause serious, expensive damage if you should be
unlucky enough to burst pipes in a hidden corner.
The "pink stuff" is SO cheap (under $3 per gallon!) I
cannot imagine anyone who can afford an RV of any kind
feeling that is too big an investment!! Once you have the
right winterizing aids in place (water heater bypass &
pump inlet valve & hose) you will spend far *less* time
doing it the sure-fire way than you'd spend fritzing around
with an air hose!
If you are going to use anti-freeze, should you also blow out the
lines first? Many do, but a few argue that this step is not needed;
in fact, it "gives you a false sense of security, since there is bound
to be some residual water that will seek the lowest point, freeze
and burst/weaken a fitting." In fact, the compressed air itself, if
powerful enough, could damage your pipes. One important
caution, however: RV anti-freeze cannot be diluted the way that
engine coolant can, so you need to be sure that as much water is
emptied as possible before adding the pink stuff. Unless you are
sure all the water has drained, therefore, you probably ought to
use at least a low-pressure air compressor to get rid of the water
that gets caught in the low points and won't drain.
If you decide to use this method, follow these five steps (after
blowing out the lines if you choose to take this step):
- Get a hot water heater bypass line installed if you do not already have one.
- Drain the fresh water tank as completely as possible or turn on your water pump and run water through the sink until the tank is empty (some tanks donât have a quick drain).
- Put about 2-3 gallons of RV antifreeze in the fresh water tank
- Use the water pump to circulate/purge antifreeze through all fresh hot/cold water lines. Run the pump and flush each hot/cold water line separately (toilet included!) until pink antifreeze runs clear, then keep the tap running in sinks/shower to put antifreeze in the traps.
- Also remember to purge the city water inlet with antifreeze (hand pump will do this).
But what about the after-taste? Try these tips: (1) Flush
thoroughly with fresh water. Fill your fresh water tank twice and
let your water pump force it through your pipes. Remember to
open your gray water dump valve before you get carried away
here. Then hook up to city water and run some more until all the
pink color and taste are gone. Be sure not to un-bypass the water
heater until you've flushed all the lines. (2) If you still have any
residue, fill your fresh water tank about 3/4 full and drive the rig
around for a while, letting the water slosh around before draining
and refilling.
Which method is for you? If you want to be completely safe, anti-
freeze is the only way to go. If you live in a mild climate,
however, and use your rig all year long, you will PROBABLY be
safe with only blowing out the lines. If you try this method,
however, you might want to watch the weather carefully. If a hard
freeze is predicted, running your furnace might be a little extra
insurance ö just in case. What if you are not sure which method is
best? In that case, you will certainly rest easier by blowing out
your lines *and* adding anti-freeze.
If you have other questions about winterizing your rig or other RV
concerns, be sure to leave a message on the RV list. Someone will
be sure to have an answer for you soon.
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